god damn cops. i don't care if you guys are tired of it or not. this is the motherfucking problem with "less lethal weaponary". the fucking pigs think becauses its "less lethal" that gives them a right to use it anytime, when in fact... it should only be used so you dont have to drawl your gun. in most of these instances cops would never drawl their guns, and their just looking for an excuse to try out their new "less lethal" toys.
fuck cops!
and cops sit around the donuts shop all day long wondering why people don't like them... hrmmmmm, i wonder why. they sit there and make snide comments AFTER they tased the dude.
ive had a cop stop me once and he wouldnt tell me why he stopped me. when i got angry he arrested me. hahahahaha, fucking faggot pig. hrm, don't want us to get mad just tell us why you stopped us. god damn the men in blue.
m e r e d i t h:Sit around donut shops all day long? Man that's so played out.
Bwhahahahaha, are you kidding?? i've seen so many fat and out of shape cops its not even funny. wait, actually is fucking histyrical but you get what i mean.
mis-one:Hmm.. go with the guy arresting drunk drivers, or the asshole breaking in to my house or trying to rape my sister? Yeah, I'll go with Cops.
lol, ummm... the asshole trying to break into your house or trying to rape your sister??? please, get real. most cops don't stop rapes in progress, secondly if someone is raping my sister or breaking into my house, im not calling the cops. justice will be taken by me and the barrel of my gun.
and are drunk drivers really more dangerous than cops? bwhahahahahaha
You're welcome to believe what you'd like. I was just saying if I had to lump a group of people together, I'd rather pick Cops over Criminals. You could make the argument that "Cops are Criminals" but that's just a sensationalist statement that could be mimicked by any 7th grader. I know because I used to be that same 7th grader. Heck, I was that way up until my last major run in during my teens for graffiti related incidents. So should I be bitter at the cop because he's protecting the law I didn't agree with, or should I be mad at "the system"? It's not the Cops writing the laws, they're just people who have chosen a job to enforce the (maybe others are salty by that fact alone).
Jobs that enforce a governing law is nothing new though. Think about all the people that handle the food you eat, do you despise them because you can't eat your food raw or uncleaned? I can see you shaking your head right now "I can't believe he's trying to compare a cop that bullies me and my friends to a Quality Service worker for a food company". My point is that you can have bad eggs anywhere - cops are people, people make mistakes everywhere. Cops aren't bred like dogs, they're living breathing human beings that consciously made the decision to take that career. Just like the factory worker that mixes a wrong chemical, or designs a hazardous toy and kills or injures hundreds of children. Do you guys have the same pent up aggression towards other professions?
If I had to pinpoint what's really played out in this society it would have to be- Blackballing. When you make a statement proclaiming "All Cops Suck" you're aligning yourself with people that make other extreme generalizations. "All Black people are thugs", "All White people are racist", Asian people can't... Mexicans always.. etc. etc. But, like the cops, I guess we're all only human and we make mistakes.
mis-one:Hmm.. go with the guy arresting drunk drivers, or the asshole breaking in to my house or trying to rape my sister? Yeah, I'll go with Cops.
lol, ummm... the asshole trying to break into your house or trying to rape your sister??? please, get real. most cops don't stop rapes in progress, secondly if someone is raping my sister or breaking into my house, im not calling the cops. justice will be taken by me and the barrel of my gun.
and are drunk drivers really more dangerous than cops? bwhahahahahaha
Yes, yes they are.
And David, you've been making me laugh all day. THANK you.
On a real serious note, kids be swearing that Cops made them commit crimes. Maybe thats the real reason behind all this hatred of police - The cops set you up, made you commit a crime, then they arrested you after making you do it. lol
You're welcome to believe what you'd like. I was just saying if I had to lump a group of people together, I'd rather pick Cops over Criminals
Bwhahahaha, way to over simplify everything…. mr. Fox News. Is someone bad just because they break a certain law??? You’ve got to be fucking joking man. I thought you could be a little bit smarter about this. Rather you’re just making extreme points… like your sister being raped. Pathetic.
You could make the argument that "Cops are Criminals" but that's just a sensationalist statement that could be mimicked by any 7th grader. I know because I used to be that same 7th grader. Heck, I was that way up until my last major run in during my teens for graffiti related incidents. So should I be bitter at the cop because he's protecting the law I didn't agree with, or should I be mad at "the system"? It's not the Cops writing the laws, they're just people who have chosen a job to enforce the (maybe others are salty by that fact alone).
Um, am I bitter that cops enforce laws that sometimes, or even often times infringe upon my rights as a human fucking being? You’re god damn right I am. And I’m not talking about graffiti. Jesus man, it’s not the fucking simple. We're talking about laws that effect real people. and im not even talking about myself. i am talking about REAL people who are effected by the police enforcing these laws.. I don’t give two rats asses if they are “just doing their jobâ€. God dammit the motherfucking Gestapo was “just doing their jobsâ€.
Do you guys have the same pent up aggression towards other professions?
Yes, there are plenty of other professions to hate out there. Judges, politicians, bosses, fox news correspondents, TV preachers, etc. etc. etc.
If I had to pinpoint what's really played out in this society it would have to be- Blackballing. When you make a statement proclaiming "All Cops Suck" you're aligning yourself with people that make other extreme generalizations. "All Black people are thugs", "All White people are racist", Asian people can't... Mexicans always.. etc. etc. But, like the cops, I guess we're all only human and we make mistakes.
cops deserve every fucking generalization they get...... THE DIFFERENCE IS REGULAR MEXICANS AND BLACK CITIZENS ARENT ENFORCING LAWS THAT INFRINDGE UPON REAL PEOPLES RIGHTS EVERY FUCKING DAY. LAWS THAT THROW PEOPLE IN PRISONS THAT AREN'T FIT FOR DOGS, LAWS THAT TEAR FAMILES APART. LAWS THAT KEEP PEOPLE IN POVERTY. LAWS THAT ARE USED TO INTIMIDATE US SO WE ACT LIKE GOOD LITTLE SHEEP AND DO WHAT WERE TOLD!!! HAIL HITLER HAIL HITLER!!!!!!!! THATS THE DIFFERENCE AND THATS THE GOD DAMN REASON FOR THE COP GENERALIZATIONS. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD OF WENT TO THE ACADAMY INSTEAD.
its funny you bring up generalizations because you've sat here and generalized all sorts of people and things you didn't like, and don't say you didn't we've all seen you, but i guess when it come to sticking up for the men in blue you'll even come across as a hypocrite. how pathetic.
You could make the argument that "Cops are Criminals" but that's just a sensationalist statement that could be mimicked by any 7th grader. I know because I used to be that same 7th grader.
if your value of criminality ends with what the owning class deems "crime", then id say your still just about at the level of a seventh grader. and yes, use my "criminal" past to devalue my place in a "functioning" society, and you'll always win (by those standards that are simply irrelevant in my adult life), but its really fucking insulting to be dumbed down to "hating the system" like some angst pimple ridden pre teen who swears by catchphrases. seriously, generalizing cops? how about police work. i generalize police work. it exists to protect something so destructive, so fucking backwards, that ill lose every "civilized" argument with every "grown-up" without skipping a step.
cool i knew you wouldn't understand. then again you've never really been effected by any of these laws so no one expects you too! you know for instance, marijuana is illegal. you know eastern kentucky produces more marijuana than any other state except for california. now holy shit, lets step back a second and examine why. maybe marijuana has replaced moonshine??? DING!!! DING!!! DING!!! if you guessed that, then you guessed right. why are all these people in eastern kentucky growing weed??? well because they are dirt fucking poor. there are no jobs any more once all the coal mines got shut down so to make a living they grow weed. so basically they are criminals. i guess we shouldn't ever associate with them because these hard working people are actually criminals breaking the law!!!!!! see how you over simpilfying shit makes no sense. people are forced into crime because of oppressive situations. then you have cops whos job it is to enforce laws and to catch criminals. but in this case they are enforcing laws that tear familes apart in eastern kentucky. laws that keep these folks in oppressive situations. laws that keep farm boys behind bars for 25 to life for trying to make a living. now this is just a microcosm of what happens in the REAL world when cops enforce REAL laws REAL people are effected. thats what happens when a cop is "just doing his job"
but why am i even wasting my time. make fun of me for using the example i did or whatever, i know you will instead of actually saying something worth my time.
gay innuendo:but why am i even wasting my time. make fun of me for using the example i did or whatever, i know you will instead of actually saying something worth my time.
Well everything doesn't always have to be a joke on my end. I think this is a topic worth discussing. Not to mention a discussion where my goal isn't to prove my point, only to discuss it. I like reading other perspectives as well as expressing my own. Nothing you've written so far has validated to me the reasoning for putting all Cops under one "bad" umbrella. I have no personal ties with cops, just don't have a vendetta in a world where nothing is promised. I generally don't complain much either. Not because my life is easy, but because I don't chose to make the freedom I have, awful.
I have gone to protests, I have skateboarded, hung out at night in large groups, listened to loud music, feed and payed the homeless, helped starving Aids babies, etc. and haven't had a run-in with a cop since a 2004 speeding ticket in which I was in the wrong. So my question to the group is deeper than not being to grasp "the real world", it's more of ASKING - If I have only had interactions with the law when I was in the wrong, and you all think Cops are always in the wrong, then does that mean you are doing things right?
Nothing you've written so far has validated to me the reasoning for putting all Cops under one "bad" umbrella.
amazing. i've just proved to you that cops enforce destructive laws on many levels every day, but that doesn't make them awful people? are you fucking kidding me? the example i gave is just a small microcosm of whats going on here. my point is cops by "just doing their job" end up enforcing oppressive laws that only hurt people in the end. thus, i see cops as scum of the earth no better than the dirt i walk on.
I have gone to protests, I have skateboarded, hung out at night in large groups, listened to loud music, feed and payed the homeless, helped starving Aids babies, etc. and haven't had a run-in with a cop since a 2004 speeding ticket in which I was in the wrong.
cool, i wouldn't expect you do have a run-in with the police while you're helping babies with aids or listening to loud music. millions of fucking people listen to loud music daily. here is something you might like to know, just because YOU david, owner and operator of mis-one.com has only had run ins with the police when he deserved it, doesn't mean other people haven't had bad experiences with the cops when they didn't deserve it, and just because the cop was nice to you, doesn't mean he didn't turn the corner and do something awful. so quit looking at it from a base level, this whole fucking thing goes alot deeper than your even getting. here i am talking about how poor, working folks in kentucky have been negatively effected by cops enforcing the law... and you come at me with "well i listen to loud music and help babies with aids and stuff.... but ive only been bothered by cops when i deserve it". bwhuahahahahaha, pathetic, shithole arguement.
gay innuendo: here is something you might like to know, just because YOU david, owner and operator of mis-one.com has only had run ins with the police when he deserved it, doesn't mean other people haven't had bad experiences with the cops
This is my point GI. You nailed it on the head. Because, I HAVE had runins with cops, but just not lately. Even with those runins I don't classify an entire group of people because of a couple of individuals, or even a marginal percentage. Your Kentucky situation I won't even break down with my opinion on it's origination because you seem to be pretty dead set that Cops make the world go bad. (I guess they pay themselves?). I think we're all contributers to corruption no matter HOW HARD PEOPLE WANT TO TYPE.
Take your job for example - I believe you work/worked in or construction didn't you? Surely at some point in that position you might be contracted to build or supplement a government building, police station, prisons, etc. right? So then you're supplying a base for all the atrocities that you speak of to take place aren't you? What about the factory workers that sew the police uniforms, the gun, badge, vehicle manufacturers. Now we start to see the plot and it's players unfold and they're all working under different scenarios, all for a buck.
I have made the point before that if you use money, you're a part of "the system". If you work for money that's paid from a higher conglomerate you're just as much of a contributer to the global corruption as the Cops are.
Just a quick question for GI (because I've gotta leave in like 2 seconds, but I wanted to ask): what laws are you referring to when you say, "cops enforce destructive laws on so many levels..."
I'm asking this with as much innocence as possible, wondering which laws you believe to be so incredibly destructive to people.
any law protecting private interest over peoples autonomy and "rights".
and david, what is the point of proving how encompassing "the system" is? proving that we are all a part of it doesnt prove anything besides its ability to effect even the staunchest of dissidents. as many times as you have proved that point, i have offered a rebuttal: the general intellect.
its pretty dumb to make statements about how dumb and corrupt the police as a whole are...
sure sometimes they make mistakes, as seen here, but mistakes are made by everyone. you can't say the entire law enforcement system is fucked up due based on the actions of a small part of the whole. yes some cops are bad people, but no, all cops are not.
people fuck up. andrew johnson, dick nixon, bill clinton: three presidents. they all did wrong, but does that mean that all presidents are corrupt and horrible people? No
People bitch and moan about this issue all the time without thinking of what good police do everyday. maybe if you took the time to consider what shape the nation would be in without law enforcement you'd think twice.
Take your job for example - I believe you work/worked in or construction didn't you? Surely at some point in that position you might be contracted to build or supplement a government building, police station, prisons, etc. right? So then you're supplying a base for all the atrocities that you speak of to take place aren't you? What about the factory workers that sew the police uniforms, the gun, badge, vehicle manufacturers. Now we start to see the plot and it's players unfold and they're all working under different scenarios, all for a buck.
This is so absurd i don't even know where to start. first off, yes i work construction but i've never built a government building, lol. ive build stick houses, installed firewalls into hospitals, and drywall, but never drywalled a government building. sorry, we didnt get contracted out for that kind of work. secondly, there is a difference between the cop on the street and the poor schumk sewing their uniforms. cops have power. regular civilians like myself dont.
secondly, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON HOW SOMEONE CAN COMPLETELY ESCAPE THE SYSTEM THEN LET ME FUCKING KNOW. OTHERWISE PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WILL HAVE TO MAKE COMPROMISES WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE IN TO SURVIVE. IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO COMPROMISE, MYSELF PERSONALLY TRY AND DO IT VERY LITTLE, HOWEVER SOMETIMES ITS A SAD NESSESITY IN THIS CULTURE. WHEN IN THE FUCKING HELL WILL YOU FINALLY LEARN THIS?? YOUVE BROUGHT THIS SAME ARGUEMENT UP, TIME, AFTER FUCKING TIME, AND YOULL STILL GET THE SAME ANSWERS. SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY FOR US, STFU!!!! ALSO ID LIKE TO POINT OUT I AM LIVING THIS DUMPY ASS COUNTRY. EVEN THOUGH I AM LEAVING, I WILL STILL HAVE TO COMPROMISE MYSELF SOMEWHERE ELSE, HOWEVER IT WONT BE NEARLY AS MUCH.
Just a quick question for GI (because I've gotta leave in like 2 seconds, but I wanted to ask): what laws are you referring to when you say, "cops enforce destructive laws on so many levels..."
read what yabasta!!! said, he hit it on the nail. secondly, did you not read anything i said?
its pretty dumb to make statements about how dumb and corrupt the police as a whole are...
sure sometimes they make mistakes, as seen here, but mistakes are made by everyone. you can't say the entire law enforcement system is fucked up due based on the actions of a small part of the whole. yes some cops are bad people, but no, all cops are not.
did you not read what i said either. its not about cops making mistakes god dammit.... jesus christ i feel like im talking to my god damn dog here.
I guess there isn't a point in discussing it anymore. You guys are clear that you HaTe CoPs, but you don't do anything about it. You follow the law, you aren't killing them, you're not even beating them up, so it's passive hatred and I can accept that. I will continue not having a problem with them.
I guess there isn't a point in discussing it anymore. You guys are clear that you HaTe CoPs, but you don't do anything about it.
What in the fuck am I supposed to do about it, and please give a better answer than the sorry piss ass examples you used like going out and killing cops. Your pathetic arguments are so sorry there really isn’t a point to this garbage anymore, you’re right about that. So far I’ve asked you to produce some answers to how one person is supposed leave the system completely, all you have had for us so far is more idiotic claims and comments. We do our best to live outside of the system, and to change things, but we are all ONE FUCKING PERSON, and this system is bigger than any of us so it forces us to make compromises just to fucking survive. Why in the hell can’t you understand that? Seriously, are you a fucking Mongolid???
You follow the law, you aren't killing them, you're not even beating them up, so it's passive hatred and I can accept that. I will continue not having a problem with them.
If I broke the law or not I wouldn’t tell you OVER THE MOTHERFUCKING INTERNET. If you’re going to break the law, you typically keep that shit to just yourself. Man, you sure would make an awful fucking criminal. Secondly, killing cops??? If I went out and killed a cop I would be in a jail cell no soon after, now what in the fuck would that accomplish??? There would still be millions of other cops out there doing the same shit. You are so god damn foolish it’s unbelievable. I used to think you were semi-intelligent but I can tell you’ve been eating all the lead from China. Also, who in the hell says we aren’t trying to change things??? I do my best however we’re all in a situation where you can’t live outside the system completely, so yes sometimes we make compromises. Sometimes we have to be passive… and so on. or the whole fucking system will crush you before you even start.
at this point id say we have very little chances to change the system on its on. we needs something catastrophic to happen fist. something that just cripples all its structures. other than that, us as people have very little chance at changing the system. its just too fuckiing big and controls every aspect of us. to the point where youll defend no matter how vicious and evil it actually is.
My issue with the whole anti-Cop thing GI is the constant bitching when you and others know the inevitable, accept it, but just complain on and on. Over and over, cops suck cops suck. It's just such an over-saturated statement after the 4,384 time which is why there is no real debate going on here. From an outsiders perspective it really seems like whatever view you have cops you've let it consume you to the point where they got your goat.
Also you write way too damn hype. I just end up skipping over your sentences as soon as I start reading the nonsensical insults. So don't be salty when you don't get questions answered.
gay innuendo:Man, you sure would make an awful fucking criminal.
This the part in the movie where I would throw the brick through the store window right when the owner happen to be driving by right?
My issue with the whole anti-Cop thing GI is the constant bitching when you and others know the inevitable, accept it, but just complain on and on. Over and over, cops suck cops suck. It's just such an over-saturated statement after the 4,384 time which is why there is no real debate going on here. From an outsiders perspective it really seems like whatever view you have cops you've let it consume you to the point where they got your goat.
From an outsiders perspective it really seems like all you do is constantly make fun lauratiny. after the 4, 384th time it gets really over-saturated and makes you the goat, david. hahaha, see it works both ways buddy. until you got a point... heres some advice, grow some balls and get the fuck over it. hahahahaha.
Also you write way too damn hype. I just end up skipping over your sentences as soon as I start reading the nonsensical insults. So don't be salty when you don't get questions answered.
lol, quit being a fucking baby. jesus, you can't take a few insults but you love to dish it out, right?? so why in the hell can't you answer the question?? perhaps you have no answers and this is nothing but an excuse. since you act like you know everything it seems like you could of answered the question in the time it took you to type this horse shit. i can't speak for anyone else, but I actually try my god damn best to live by what i say. but i guess i'm not doing enough right, because im not out there beraking the law and killing cops??? I'd really like you to answer the questions so i can start doing right, and then you finally be pleased. how does one person go about living completely and self sufficenetly outside the system??? how does one person get rid of cops?? got any answers.... ahh, thats what i thought, mongo.
PFFFT, you sound like the kid who got in trouble with the cops when he was younger.... and was always the pussy who spilled his guts and told them everything they wanted to know.
Dude, I am an anonymous poster. for a mongolid that is a very good observation. congraduations, sir but you still haven't been able to answer my question. so whatever don't answer it... go make fun of laura tiny or something because thats all you can do on your own board. or maybe you can post another youtube video, man we don't have enough of those yet. or wait wait... you can post a bunch of news articles no one cares about. jesus, if you didnt have lauratiny and myself to talk to i sometimes wonder how much this site would even be used.
you seemed to be really enjoying the site until you and david disagreed. remember that one time, when you GI agreed that Laura didnt have to spend so much time on here if she didnt like it?
Got to admit, I've never been con"grad"ulated before. Thanks!
gay innuendo:jesus, if you didnt have lauratiny and myself to talk to i sometimes wonder how much this site would even be used.
I can't agree more. If it wasn't for you guys spending as much time as you do on here, I'd probably have to be cooped inside all day like you two, keeping posts up. Thanks again!
lets see my last post was 6 hours ago and before that 23 hours ago but your right all i do is spend my time cooped up and even if i was i like spending time in my house. its nice. also laura is the one who says she is off to bigger and better things not me. and i did plenty today including a trip to observe the bald eagle. it was really awesome too i had no idea i lived so close to the largest gathering of them in the state, thanks for your concern though. thats really nice of you. and, oh man did you really punk me with that typo. as someone who misspells most of his words... i think ill get over it!
gay innuendo:i did plenty today including a trip to observe the bald eagle. it was really awesome too i had no idea i lived so close to the largest gathering of them in the state
Out of curiosity - where is this? I know they're fairly visible around Crabtree Lake in Morrisville/Cary...
the best spot is jordan lake. they can be seen year round however as it gets colder it will get harder to spot them
->link<- - the triangle birders guide has tons of great info for the area
the division of parks and rec. recommends these spots:
"See if you can spot our nation's bird from either the NC 751 bridge crossing Northeast Creek or the NC Wildlife Resources Commission's Wildlife Observation Deck. The observation deck is located five miles south of I-40 on NC 751, 6.5 miles north of US 64."
i was able to spot one the whole day. it was still a lovely day as the leaves are finally changing around here. i was able to see lots of other birds but alot of them i couldn't identify since i didnt have my field guide on me. i hear if you have a boat its a great way to spot them
i mean, for me, its not so much about complaining but more about responding to someones insults for me not liking them. situational inevitability in a time period doesnt make it permanent, and like any reasonable, thinking person would know, its more about education than brute force, especially in a repressive hierarchal model. so again, my answer to the elimination of bastard police officers is the same: the general intellect.
P.S. fighting cops is great if youre willing to roast in jail for a while. However, getting away with it is much, much more rewarding.
just saw this on the news and it seems like alot of people are outraged. haha not just me!!! what in the hell happens if the man had a heat condition and they use a taser against him he could possibly die like others have because of "less lethal weaponry" his wife and kid were in the car and had to watch it. clearly cops have to much power and abuse of weaponry.
I haven't been on a lot lately due to me being busy, but I figured I would post from a side of someone who has probably been through the system more than anyone on here, and who has spent more time in jail than anybody on the site. I'm not boasting about it at all, because nobody likes to deal with the law, that's the obvious, but damn, how old are we? I've been treated really badly by cops, and I've been treated with respect by cops. It's funny to me because someone like my dad... cops never fuck with him. strange. Usually when you aren't doing anything to make someone believe that you are up to no good, nobody fucks with you. Yes, there are a lot of shitty crooked cops out there, and at the same time, there are a lot of good honest cops out there. One of my in-laws is a police officers in new jersey, and he is a really cool dude. I'm sure this isn't going to change anyone's opinion on police officers, and I couldn't care less if it did.. And I'm not trying to make this a pissing contest on who's been through the system more, but I have definitely had my fair share of being on the down-side of the law.
you and david continue to miss the point time after time. its not about "good" or "bad" cops. its about what yabasta!!! said. its about cops protect laws that protect private interests over people autonomy and "rights".
No you monogolid its obvious that you have missed the point. there is a reason we hate cops just like there is a reason you hate lauratiny so you are a hater. however, our hate is a little more warrented since cops willingly attack peoples autonomy and basic rights everyday. all lauratiny does is really annoy you. i just think you do it because your angry about being bald. I dunno'...
I don't hate Lauratiny GI, nor have I ever said that so you are wrong. Also, I'm not bald, so you're wrong again. Notice a pattern here? You have made it obvious by using those two statements (and the Mongoloid one) as easy outs for your failing "Cops Suck" argument. I'm sorry that your knowledge is limited on the subject, it would have been nice to actually discuss it deeper.
Thanks issac/isaac/issaacc for your feedback. I understand the general intellect point but I still believe everyone is a contributer. I think when someone targets cops with a general statement like "cops suck" it is a cop out for ALL of us as that are involved. "Cops suck" just reads like a scrawl on a bathroom wall to me, not an elegant breakdown of the societal influence of law inforcement.
and there is total truth to that, but in the same way it somewhat proves a point that the most of the people truly effected by police work are the lowest common denominator, and even more so, people who cannot afford to buy their way out of it. im really not trying to go into the whole wealth vs. poverty crime debate, or that poverty induces crime (which i also believe whole heartedly) because wealthy people do break the law. but there is something dead wrong if these "laws" are ineffective to people who have more of something supposedly abstract to the letter of the law.
if a generalized law has failed to be truly general, then it is a failed law. therefore, all laws are failures. furthermore, all police work is here to do i protect the facade that these laws are made for everyone.