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      CommentAuthormis-one
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2008
     
    The color of her hair?

    I thought Manic Panic broke our color barrier in the 90's but I guess I'm misinformed. This girl was trying to make money for college too:
    Manic Panic
    Meyosha Love, 17, an employee at The Grande movie theatre in Winston-Salem, said she was suspended last weekend after the company said her colored hair didn't meet company dress code guidelines.

    "It's not blue. It's not purple. It's not out of the normal," Love, who has worked at the theater for almost 2 years, said.


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      CommentAuthorFishInABox
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2008
     
    this was WXII's "big story" tonight. slow news day in the triad.
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      CommentAuthorMatthew
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2008
     
    if she played her cards right, she could get a good lawyer and make some quick cash..
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      CommentAuthorKoger
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2008
     
    FishInABox:this was WXII's "big story" tonight. slow news day in the triad.


    "...living in ameeericaaaaa..."
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      CommentAuthorMatthew
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2008
     
    in all fairness to the movie theater. they can hire and fire whoever the hell they want to, and since NC is an "at-will" state, regarding employment, they really don't even need a reason at all.
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      CommentAuthorJosh Topic
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2008
     
    NC labor laws are stupid and don't always make sense. While what Matt says is true and that NC is an "at will" state and they don't need a reason, the catch is that depending on their reasoning (or what you can claim is their reason) you have ammunition to get your job back or to file a lawsuit.
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      CommentAuthorMatthew
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2008
     
    That is correct. Companies that are part of the better business bureau are typically better when it comes to treatment of employees.. Businesses in at-will states also don't have to give you a severance package if you get laid off.
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    nc labor laws are some of the worst on the country. "right to work" is just about the most unfair act ever put into a post-union workforce.
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      CommentAuthormis-one
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    For those that oppose the movie theater's decision, where should they draw the line? What about Mohawks? Piercings? Gold Teeth? Gaudy Jewelery?

    Let's be real - $200 braids aren't in any way a necessity in popping popcorn or tearing up tickets.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    there is no line to be drawn david. the employers should be glad they have us as employees and let us do whatever we want no matter the possible negative effects it could have on business.


    i worked at lone star when i was younger, back at 16/17 and this girl came to work with pink hair and they sent her home until it was a natural color. she tried suing for racism. it didnt work out for her.
    its sorta OT i know, but just thought id bring it up as it sorta relates.
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    that was me
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      CommentAuthorspincycle
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    I know at the Grand in Greensboro people have hair like hers. She should look around and ask more, because it's messed up for them to enforce the rules unevenly. Plus red is a natural color occurring in humans, maybe not fire engine red but I mean really. It sounds kind of racist to me. If it was a white girl with blonde highlights in her brown hair I bet they wouldn't say shit.
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    It sounds kind of racist to me. If it was a white girl with blonde highlights in her brown hair I bet they wouldn't say shit.

    both are natural colors, but i see what you mean.
    i think its beat up.. her hair doesnt look too over-the-line to me, but i dont run a successful theater either. and i dont think its racist at all. that kinda red looks just as loud in a white girls hair, or anyones hair for that matter.
    • CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    companies aren't glad they have employees. employees, like her, are no more valuable then the butter warmer thing or the computers that prints out the tickets.
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      CommentAuthorKoger
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2008
     
    mis-one:For those that oppose the movie theater's decision, where should they draw the line? What about Mohawks? Piercings? Gold Teeth? Gaudy Jewelery?


    I think companies should be able to draw the line wherever they choose in regard to appearance accessories. Dyed hair, jewelry, makeup etc. AS long as the policy is CLEARLY stated to the employee before the employee is hired and is in a contractual agreement. That means both parties have their bases covered and everyone is knowledgeable about the issues before it becomes a hire fire situation. If she wasn't warned beforehand i think she shouldn't have lost her job. If she knew that it's a no dye situation then she should have watched herself and not tempted fate.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    I have had a bit of experience in this predicament. When I was 16-19 I worked at a dry cleaners followed by a grocery store. I started my dry cleaning job with normal colored hair fashioned in sort of a white girl afro. One day I came in with BRIGHT PINK HAIR!!! AAAAA... it was luminous to say the least. I came in in like nothing changed and displayed the same cheery quirky personality I had been sporting with "normal" hair. My boss saw my bold new look and giggled. She calmly came over to me and asked me to get rid of it. I worked at a grocery after that, and started with my same "normal" look. About halfway in, I shaved my head into a mohawk and dyed it kool aid blue. It was kinda neat, it looked like a wave was breaking ontop of my head. On top of that, I pierced my eyebrow. I knew people had been fired from that same store before for dyed hair and facial piercings, but I didn't change my goofy outlook on life one bit, and marched in their just as I had been doing for the previous year. One of my bosses told me they liked my hair, but to cover my piercing with a band-aid. The head honcho of the store laughed at me and asked why I did it. I replyed that I read the style was the summer's freshest look according to Cosmo. He laughed and told me to wear a hat and band aid. I looked ree-cock-you-lus while at work with my oversized hat and band aid on my face, but I didn't get fired. These days I'm still dying my hair and it's still in a mohawk, and while I do work at a record company, I strongly feel that if you make a friendly connection with your co-workers and their customers/clients, they will see you from the inside out, as corny as that sounds. I don't know the girl that got fired from the theaters, but I think you should understand the position your employers are in, and demonstrate through actions that it's possible to be a great employee while still wasting money and time getting drunk with your friends and poking holes in your face and destroying the chemical makeup of your hair.
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
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      CommentAuthorJosh Topic
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    she didn't get fired.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008
     
    suspended, whatever...
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      CommentAuthorMatthew
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
     
    also, nobody on here knows if the girl who got fired had a history of being late, poor work ethic, bad attitude, etc..
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      CommentAuthorspincycle
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2008
     
    Beeson:
    It sounds kind of racist to me. If it was a white girl with blonde highlights in her brown hair I bet they wouldn't say shit.

    both are natural colors, but i see what you mean.
    i think its beat up.. her hair doesnt look too over-the-line to me, but i dont run a successful theater either. and i dont think its racist at all. that kinda red looks just as loud in a white girls hair, or anyones hair for that matter.


    I too think it's beat up, and that color has the potential to be loud on anyone. But I think it's also an almost passable color for being "natural". I don't think it's straight out racist, I just think it's sketchy and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a double standard (thus making it kind of racist).
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2008
     
    many kids are born with fire engine red hair. come on, you cant really buy the bullshit you just said, can you? its nowhere close to being 'almost passale color for being natural'

    why is it 'sketchy' that someone possibly broke the rules and was sent home for it? i say possibly cause ive never been an employee of the theatre and not sure exactly what thier guidlines are.
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      CommentAuthorspincycle
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2008
     
    yeah I know I called it fire engine red. If you look at the picture enlarged, which I didn't before I called it that, the hair could be close to a natural color. It almost looks like a color you could buy at Target, and I say that because they don't sell "crazy" colors like blue there. But I say almost, cause it's not uniform enough and parts of it are too bright to be natural.

    It's sketchy because the Grande theatre in Greensboro has multiple employees with hair like hers. They aren't enforcing the rules uniformly within their corporation. I think they bend the rules based on where the movie theatres are located and who their primary customers are, which I think is messed up and kind of sketchy. I think it's sketchy because it's like they trust costumers in one area not to get freaked out in one area about something but not another. Or that one area is more into certain styles culturally so they can't have employees that don't meet those styles. I understand it business wise and I suspect they don't want her or other people to have hair like hers at that location because of what costumers might think. But I wish the theatre would just let people grow up and get over hair color.

    But yes, knowing the rules she knew, she probably knew she was testing them because that hair color is a boarder line color leaning towards unnatural. So I don't entirely blame the company because she probably knew what she was getting into. But I still think it's shitty that it's like that.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2008
     
    Its hilarious to see you still feel that its almost a natural color and that it should be ok cause you can MAYBE buy it at Target.

    Youre so full of shit.

    And if you dont like their policies then dont work there, its that simple.

    Also, are you sure its a chain thats owned by a single person/company? Or is it a franchise kind of thing? Cause its possible they have different rules based on who owns/manages the locations.
    Regardless, I love the 'natural color' talk and the 'racism' approach to it all.
    Got to love when it has to be racist if shes not white. White people get away with everything.
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      CommentAuthorspincycle
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2008
     
    I like it that you can nit pick at what I say and then not actually read it.

    spincycle:But yes, knowing the rules she knew, she probably knew she was testing them because that hair color is a boarder line color leaning towards unnatural. So I don't entirely blame the company because she probably knew what she was getting into. But I still think it's shitty that it's like that.


    I'm pretty sure they have the same rules across the board. At the very least I know that the Grand in Greensboro has the same unnatural hair color rule as the one in Winston. I know this because I know people who work there.

    I feel like it's sketchy and possibly racist. It's not even that "white people get away with everything". They probably wouldn't let a white person come in with a blue mohawk. It's that culturally speaking this is a normal socially acceptable hair style much like highlights are. I don't trust how the company is handling it. Maybe that's irrational, but I feel like how they enforce their rules is sketchy. You don't have to feel that way.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2008
     
    ok, so you know the unnatural hair color rule but yet its racist that they suspended her for doing it?
    tight.
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      CommentAuthorJosh Topic
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2008
     
    i think shes saying its because they dont enforce it the same across the board. if they're not enforcing their decisions the same across the board then what are they basing their decisions on. race could be a contributing factor.


    its not a hard concept to understand.
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2008
     
    but what she hasnt said so far is if the red hair in greensboro is on a white person or a black person.
    so what happens if its on a black person in greensboro. i guess your racism idea just went out the window....

    i think it IS a hard concept to understand, but maybe because (unlike you and jackie) i havent been a victim of racism.....
    no i just dont think all things that happen to a black person or anyone non white is racist, im not as quick as some to jump on that bandwagon.
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      CommentAuthorMatthew
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    can't the girl just go somewhere else and make $7.00/hr?
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    I can see it being way easier to get away with unnatural hair in Greensboro than in Winston, even if the rules are the same across the board. But even if the rules are the same, different employers might enforce them to different degrees. Probably as with any business, the manager has to make a demographic decision about how their employee's appearance will effect business, even if they personally don't care what color the employees hair is. Most manager's are looking out for the good of the business and making sure money is coming in. Sometimes this means being an asshole and telling a girl who happens to be black that they can't have red hair. People from Winston in my experience are a little more sheltered and traditional with things like hair color, whereas people in Greensboro take a more "big city" approach to it. But this is all in my experience.

    I must observe that I forgot how obscenely touchy the issue of race is, especially at home in NC. I've been living in Boston for a while now, and if an incident like this happened in Boston, racism would be less under the magnifying glass here. I'm not saying the south is stupid, I love the south. It's just good food for thought on this Wednesday afternoon.

    Also, other guest who is defaming my good nature, relax, please. Kindness is contageous.
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